I guess you've noticed it. I am back. I assume the law is on my side. If Jäggle thinks he can shut me down, he is very, very wrong.
http://www.esn.org/esntrain_faqI would like to comment on the esntrain faq, which were published by ESN.
1. What is the ESNtrain?
ESNtrain is a project
organized by a Swiss private company called Platform GmbH. Sole owner of
platform GmbH is Bernhard Jäggle (on 28.06.2009), who initiated the ESNtrain
project. The goal of the ESN train was to provide to thousands of people across
Europe a communication platform. They would meet new people on the train,
discover cities, their inhabitants, their customs and cultures. During the
night, travelers would sleep on the train while it would be travelling from one
city to the next. During the days when the ESNtrain would stop in various
cities, additional visitors could board the train and learn more about the
ESNtrain and its journey. The ESNtrain would have travelled during 25 days in 18
countries.
2. Who was to manage the railway logistics?
The Austrian Railway Company ÖBB
was working with Platform GmbH. As far as ESN knows, its role was to provide the
railway logistics (wagons, authorizations, locomotives, drivers, etc.),
delegating some of these tasks to other European railway companies and
negotiating price of these services with them.
So, I guess there was a written contract between Platform and ÖBB. In one newspaper article Jäggle claimed that was not a written contract. Does ESN has any more insights into that?
3. Why did ESN become involved in the ESNtrain project?
Erasmus Student
Network shared the vision and ideals of ESNtrain project - bringing people from
all over the world together and providing them opportunities for personal growth
and learning through cultural exchange. Moreover, in 2009, ESN is celebrating
its 20th anniversary. As the ESNtrain embraced similar values and ideals as ESN,
the project was therefore included among the projects of the Happy Birthday!
ESN.
What does "the project was therefore included" exactly mean?
4. Who was to participate in the ESNtrain?
Anybody could book a trip on the
ESNtrain, student or not, member of an ESN section or not. Promotion of the
project was mostly geared towards students. A certain amount of places was
reserved for members of ESN sections as a reward for ESN promoting the ESNtrain.
So, ESN promoted this train, as well.
Role of ESN in the ESNtrain organization
5. What was the
relation between ESN and platform GmbH?
Erasmus Student Network let the
ESNtrain project use the name ESN in its title. ESN provided Platform GmbH the
access to human resources in its network. This meant in practical terms that the
representatives of ESNtrain project were given a time during ESN's international
events (such as AGM or Regional Platforms) to present the ESNtrain and promote
it among ESN members. At the same time, the ESN sections were encouraged to
organise events along the ESNtrain route for the participants of the ESNtrain.
Additionally, ESN promoted the ESNtrain project among its partners and other
contacts.
Could ESN please publish the document, where they allowed ESNtrain to use the name of ESN!
ESN was granted patronages for its Happy Birthday! ESN celebrations from several
institutions and organisations - such as Commissioner Figeľ, Committee of the
Regions, Council of Europe etc. (for the whole list, see www.esn.org). The
patronages were not connected to any of the projects of Happy Birthday
specifically - they concerned the general celebrations of 20 years of the
existence of ESN. ESN never financially or materially contributed to the
organization of the ESNtrain.
The patronages were clearly displayed on the ESNtrain website. Participants must have assumed from that these people were connected to ESNtrain. It is "nice" to hear the truth 100 days after the cancellation.
In return, Platform gave ESN members an opportunity of pre-registration for the
ESNtrain. Each section was granted 2 places in the ESNtrain. Also, it was to
carry ESN name throughout Europe and make ESN activities and purpose known to a wider audience through the press coverage of the ESNtrain arrival. The ESNtrain
was to be a promotion vehicle for the celebrations of the 20th anniversary of
ESN. Finally, the presence of the ESNtrain in a city promised to further enrich
the life of ESN sections and of their exchange students along the ESNtrain
route.
So, the reasons why ESN has promoted ESNtrain was that ESN could collect sponsorship through this event, as well? Is this really true, ESN? If yes, I understand why ESN turned a blind eye on Bernhard Jäggle.
6. Is ESN contractually linked to the ESNtrain?
No. ESN International wishes
to clarify that it is neither financially nor legally linked to Platform GmbH.
Also, there have never been any contracts or negotiations between ESN
International and the Austrian railway company ÖBB, concerning this train. As
far as ESN knows, agreements were established between the Platform GmbH and the
ÖBB. However, ESN wants to state clearly that it gave support to ESNtrain by
providing it with the help of its network of local sections. The sections
situated at the various stops of the train put a lot of effort into organising
activities for the train’s participants.
Could ESN please publish the "agreement" between Platform and ÖBB. I am very interested to have a look at this agreement. Please remember ESN: Jäggle stated that there was no written agreement between Platform and ÖBB.
7. How was ESN involved in the management of the ESNtrain project?
Since the
ESNtrain project was not organized by ESN or any of its sections, ESN (in the
form of its statutory bodies such as its international board (IB), its council
of national representatives (CNR) or its general assembly (AGM)) did not oversee
the management of the ESNtrain project, like it would do for its own large
projects such as an AGM or the "20 years of Erasmus". This means that ESN (in
the form of the aforementioned bodies) was never informed in detail about the
current situation of the project (financing, logistics, volunteer recruiting,
etc.). Project management was the sole responsibility of Platform GmbH.
So, ESN can guarantee that Matthias Fenner (former ESN President) was never informed about the financial deficit? You know - ESN - what happens if I find out that this statement is untrue. ESN can shut down its doors if Matthias Fenner knew about the deficit before March 27th.
ESN and participants
8. What is ESN doing for the ESNtrain participants
waiting for their money to be reimbursed?
First of all, ESN has no
contractual obligation towards the ESNtrain participants as during the
registration, the ESNtrain participants agreed on the general terms with the
Platform GmbH.
Having said this, ESN deeply regrets the cancellation of the
project and wishes to help the participants - people who looked forward to
discovering parts of our continent and who believed in the values of cultural
exchange and European diversity. Members of ESN sections that were to organise
events along the route helped stranded participants after the cancellation. Some
of them carried on with the planned events under the theme ESNyway, such as
sections in Vienna, Prague, Berlin or Hamburg.
Immediately after the
cancellation, the Care Team was established in order to support the ESN sections
in their efforts to cope with possible negative effects of the cancellation, to
answer participants' inquiries about ESN's role in the ESNtrain project and
about whom to contact to get reimbursed.
Nice talk, ESN!!! Did you provide the participants with the private phone
number of Bernhard Jäggle? Actually this blog provided participants with
valueable information. ESN failed miserably.
Moreover, I've read that the people in Berlin, who were organizing events
in Berlin, do not want to be associated with ESN.
In order to ease the flow of information among the parties involved in the
ESNtrain project (Platform GmbH, ÖBB, participants' representatives and ESN) and
hopefully to accelerate the reimbursement of the participants, ESN has taken the
initiative to set up a mediation between the aforementioned parties.
9. What is the current status of the mediation?
At the moment, Pascal
Gemperli - the mediator proposed by ESN - is conducting the individual pre-talks
with all those who expressed their interest in the mediation round (ESNtrain
participants, Platform GmbH, ÖBB and ESN) in order to see if the mediation is
the right way to go and to agree on the dates for the mediation. Then, the
mediation will enter in its second phase - the physical meeting which is planned
for July or August 2009, depending on the time availability of the participants
of the mediation.
Did Jäggle actually agreed on participating in that round? I doubt it.
10. Why do we hear nothing about the mediation?
By definition, the mediation
process stays impartial, confidential and voluntary all the time. In this way,
the participants feel more comfortable and less pressured towards open
discussion, which enables them to reach the solutions. Any communication towards
the general public about the mediation is to be decided and agreed upon by all
the participants of the mediation after the physical meeting takes place.
We hear nothing, because Jäggle is trying to wind himself out of this mediation round, finding excuses. This blog made many predictions in the past, most of them were pretty right. I predict, there is not going to be a mediation round where Jäggle is physically going to participate. Believe me!!!
ESN and Platform GmbH
11. What is Bernhard Jäggle doing at the
moment?
Since the cancellation of the ESNtrain and at least up to today
(07.07.2009), the Care Team has been in regular contact with the owner of
Platform GmbH and main organiser of the ESNtrain, Bernhard Jäggle.
Platform
GmbH informs the Care Team of their efforts in collecting money they had prepaid
to suppliers. Once this money is recollected, Platform GmbH is to proceed with
the reimbursements to the participants. Although Platform GmbH does not share
details about its currents steps to the participants, it does provide the Care
Team with some information, on the condition of confidentiality. Based on that
information, we believe that Platform GmbH is so far working in line with in the
interest of the ESNtrain participants.
So is ESN going to be willing at one point the share these confidential
information with? And what is the rationale for Jäggle to tell ESN some
confidential stuff.
In addition we know that ÖBB (the main supplier) is not going to refund any
of the prepayments.
For the ESNtrain project to start, some financial guarantees had been
paid, in order to rent wagons, book tracks and bring the train together. These
deposits have to be refunded to Platform GmbH first. Recollecting this money,
however, takes effort and time. Platform GmbH opted to do this work silently,
believing that the reimbursement process would be faster if the involved actors
(such as suppliers) are not pressured by public scrutiny.
Allright, ÖBB informed us that it was possible to have a phone conversation with Jäggle. Moreover, Jäggle was saying some bad stuff about persons at ÖBB. All in all, Jäggle actually angered ÖBB. Jäggle acted against our interest. Jäggle has chosen to work silently, this was a totally wrong decistion. You'll see it.
In addtion Jäggle didn't just had to pay a "financial guarantee". Jäggle had to pay EUR 500,000 to ÖBB. He managed to pay only EUR 100,000. Jäggle is telling us that the cancellation was not predictable. This is so wrong.
12. Is ESN planning to sue platform GmbH?
ESN believes that there is a better
option than legal steps - the mediation - which is far less costly than trials
and would not thus lower the amount of money that belongs to participants. At
the moment (07.07.2009), ESN has no plan to sue platform, neither on the behalf
of the participants nor on its own behalf.
OK ESN, we take your word. I wonder what ESN is going to do after the mediation round has failed. The mediation round is going to fail, because Jäggle is not going to participate in that.
13. Is ESN planning to help ESNtrain participants suing platform GmbH?
At the
moment (07.07.2009), ESN is exploring and preparing the process of mediation,
rather than confrontation. Until the mediation process is concluded, ESN does
neither intend to help ESNtrain participants take legal steps against Platform
GmbH, nor to take such step on its own.
OK ESN, we'll talk again after the mediation talks have failed.
14. Is ESN encouraging platform GmbH to declare bankruptcy?
Platform GmbH is
a private company. Only its owner can decide if and when to declare bankruptcy.
ESN has no way of influencing that decision.
It would however halt the
efforts of Platform GmbH in collecting the ESNtrain participants' money. A
bankruptcy would be in the interest of Platform GmbH's suppliers that already
received a prepayment and have not yet reimbursed it. It would be detrimental to
the Platform GmbH's customers (the participants), who would see a smaller part
of their money being reimbursed.
Moreover, as far as we know, each of the
ESNtrain participants would need to officially take part in the bankruptcy
process, in order to get reimbursed. Some would certainly do, some would
certainly not bother, others would miss the deadline, which would result in the
unfair situation of some participants receiving money and others not.
ESN is missing one important point here. A bankcruptcy of Platform GmbH would mean that Jäggle is kicked out as CEO of Platform. Hence, an independent bankcruptcy administrator would take over Platform. It would be far easier to deal with a rational person that with this Jäggle idiot. Moreover, this administrator can check whether Jäggle did commit criminal offenses. By looking at the books the administrator can judge whether Jäggle knew about the cancellation already in early March.
When Jäggle continues to hold the position of CEO of Platform, we'll never learn the truth. ESN should finally acknowledge that Jäggle is actually harming our position.
Does ESN remember the email by Jäggle, where he told a number participants how bad a certain of ÖBB was? Jäggle actually destroyed all good will at ÖBB with this email.
Does ESN want Jäggle to continue harming our interests?
15. Did the ESNtrain exist at all?
Yes, the Care Team knows participants and
ESNtrain team members who were in Bratislava and Vienna between March 27th and
30th, and who saw the train or worked on it. The existence of the ESNtrain could
be proved by pictures taken by these people (see below). The ESNtrain was ready
to depart before being cancelled.
Disclaimer: All pictures
on this page are copyrighted by Thomas Strauss. They may not be linked to,
reprinted or copied for distribution without the explicit consent of a member of
the Care Team.
ESN: Could we please get larger pictures!!! I assume this photos were taken at the ÖBB railyard in Vienna, but not Bratislava. I need larger pictures to determine where these pictures were taken. If the pictures were taken in Vienna it proves nothing, because most of the designated cars, which should have a been a part of ESNTrain, were standing in Vienna - with or without ESNTrain.
Please ESN: Provide us with larger pictures!
For sections
16. An ESNtrain participant is claiming money from my section.
What should I do?
Explain to this person that the organizer of the ESNtrain
is neither your section, nor your national board, nor ESN international. Remind
them that they booked a trip with platform GmbH, a private company that has no
financial nor contractual link with ESN (see question 1). Suggest them to
contact platform GmbH to claim their reimbursement.
Well, this shows that the misinformation campaign of Jäggle and Remo Weber certainly have worked. Before the cancellation it was the inofficial policy of ESNtrain to link ESNtrain as closely as possible with ESN.
It is too bad that I cannot prove it - at that point.
If your section receives such an inquiry through a letter from a lawyer, please notify the Care Team, so we keep a good overview. Moreover, feel free to contact the Care Team at any time to get advice on how to handle ESNtrain's participants claims.
17. Some press articles claim that ESN organized the ESNtrain. What is ESN doing
to correct this fact?
The Care Team has limited resources to monitor all
articles or TV reportages concerning ESNtrain. However, it is part of the Care
Team communication strategy to clarify facts about the ESN and ESNtrain to the
general public. Thus, if such an article or reportage is discovered, the Care
Team contacts the author to give the ESN point of view and clarify wrong
statements. Often, the effect of such a correction is however limited: by the
time of the intervention, the news has already been published or aired on TV.
After the damage has been done, ESN is now actively working to correct these mistakes.
Dear ESN folks: It is too late for that. Why haven't you intervened earlier - before the cancellation?
Organization
18. Why did the ESNtrain get cancelled?
The whole issue
of the cancellation is very complex and still subject to investigation. To the
knowledge of ESN, Platform GmbH and ÖBB disagreed about the modalities of
payment, which led ÖBB to call off the project. ESN was not responsible for the
financial management of ESNtrain.
I guess, the modalities of payment existed in written form. Yes or No?
If yes, I cannot understand why there are disagreement.
Moreover, this argument is wrong.
Dear ESN: Please dont mislead us! With our without a disagreement about payment modalities, there would have a been an ESNTrain cancellation. ÖBB said that they wanted to have EUR 500,000 before the ESNTrain departure. Jäggle himself told us that agreed on paying EUR 250,000 before the ESNTrain departure. With or without the disgreement, Jäggle couldn't even pay these EUR 250,000. He just paid EUR 100,000.
19. Does ESN have any plan of supporting a train project another time in the
future?
No. ESN has no knowledge of such a project being planned for near
future (as of 7th July 2009), neither intends to conduct such a project on its
own.
Well, actually the question was whether ESN would a "support" an ESNTrain project in the future. I hope that the answer is a clear No!!!
Future steps
20. What is ESN doing now regarding the ESNtrain?
Since ESN has always supported the values and ideas behind the ESNtrain, ESN has proposed to facilitate mediation for the parties concerned in order to contribute to the solution of the current situation and allow everyone a space for clear and direct communication.